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Boiling frog alert: Congress wants automatic wage deductions to pay down the debt

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Folks… you just can’t make this stuff up.

On July 6th, just two days ago, at least a dozen busybody Congressmen sponsored the introduction of HR 2411, the “Reduce America’s Debt Now Act of 2011.” They always come up with fantastic names for these pieces of legislation… and rest assured, the better/more patriotic the name, the more ominous the bill. This one follows the pattern.

HR 2411 states that every worker in America should be able to voluntarily have a portion of his/her wages automatically withheld and sent directly to the Treasury Department for the purposes of paying down the federal debt.

Every employer making payment of wages shall deduct and withhold upon such wages any amounts so elected, and shall pay such amounts over to the Secretary of the Treasury…

That’s right. Uncle Sam is so broke that he wants to give all the good little Americans out there the opportunity to contribute an even greater portion of their paychecks to finance government largess.

Desperate? Hmmm…. Don’t worry, it gets better.

Obviously, if an employee feels so compelled and should elect to have a portion of his/her paycheck withheld, the onus of responsibility is now on the employer to make it happen. The employer has to do all the paperwork, withhold the money, send the payment to the Treasury, maintain the account records, and probably submit to all kinds of new filing requirements.

You can imagine that, if passed, the bill will result in a host of new IRS regulations, complete with a battery of penalties for employers who don’t fill out the paperwork properly, submit filings on time, or make some administrative mistake.

Think about it: if a small business owner has one single employee who is dumb enough to think that it’s his patriotic duty to pay down the debt and decides to contribute $1/month, that owner will have the responsibility for all kinds of new forms and filings, plus submit to new ‘debt reduction audits.’

But don’t worry, it gets even better.

So let’s say there are millions of sheep out there who elect to donate a portion of their toil and sweat so that the Chinese and big financial institutions don’t have to worry about an American default. How does Congress plan on rewarding its most patriotic citizens? By sticking it to them on their taxes, of course.

HR 2411 stipulates that any contribution made to the Treasury in order to pay down the federal debt IS NOT TAX DEDUCTIBLE.

“The [Treasury] Secretary shall include. . . a reasonably conspicuous statement that any amounts deducted and withheld from wages. . .  are not deductible as charitable contributions for Federal income tax purposes.”

Imagine this scenario: You make $100,000/year. In a fit of complete insanity, you decide that you want to withhold your entire annual salary to pay down the debt. Hey, you can always move in with mom for the next year, right?

Well guess what– Uncle Sam will gladly take your money… and then STILL expect you to pay taxes on the $100,000 that you earned, so you’d have to come out of pocket with an additional $40,000 or so.

Don’t worry, though. The Social Security and Medicare wages are reduced by the amount that you withhold, making you only liable for state and federal taxes. Seems like a good deal, eh comrades?

There are so many things utterly wrong with his piece of legislation, it’s hard to know where to begin other than by saying that such intellectual and philosophical perversion is only capable of springing from unprincipled sociopaths whose sole capability is the destruction of value.

There’s a great quote from Atlas Shrugged that comes to mind which sums this all up:

[W]hen you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them, but protect them against you. . . you may know that your society is doomed.

We’ve discussed the story of the boiling frog so many times before– a frog, when put into a pot of water and slowly brought to a boil, doesn’t realize that he’s in danger until its too late. I think the boiling frog just got a little hotter. Have you hit your breaking point yet?

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  • Anne

    Just so you know, the boiling frog story is untrue.   A frog does not actually stay in the water until it boils. 

    • BayouBob

      Guess you have never gigged or cooked frogs in the Bayou state. :)

      An 1872 experiment by Heinzmann demonstrated that a normal frog would not attempt to escape if the water was heated slowly enough, and this was corroborated in 1875 by Fratscher.

      Heinzmann heated the frogs over the course of 90 minutes from about 21 °C to 37.5 °C, a rate of less than 0.2 °C per minute.”The frogs were found dead at the end of 90 minutes without having moved.”

      • Joel6279

        Anyone want to extrapolate and compare to global warming? Am not joking.

    • Stu

      It actually depends on the rate of temp increase and the age of the frog. It has been tested several times with different results according to my 1970s high school science and biology text books. If one is detirmined to find the right criteria, it can be made to work. I’d rather just go ahead and fry their legs; great as mini buffalo wings.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jay.twila Jay Twila

    Nearly makes the case for expatriation to a low debt/low tax nation. Granted, ultimately I think there is “nowhere to run” but at the same time. There are places where tyranny may be less heavy handed. I wish that place were the United States. But it is not!

  • Sandpaper Glove

    Allright all you simmering crockpot freeps, bend over again and get ready for the sandpaper fist with no vaseline. How’s it feel??

  • http://twitter.com/BuySellHomesNC HOC

    THis is the most ridiculous bill I’ve ever seen! 

  • Trader

    A socialist focus will take money from the productive and give it to the non-productive, every time and anyway they can!  They must be laughing their a_s off with this one.  Naturally, they take a piece of out the middle for doing it!

    • Kwtomed

      Trader, I looked up the reps who came up with this crap. All Republicans (defenders of small business and small taxes). Conservatives indeed.

  • Linda

    On the other hand, all of the wealthy individuals who keep saying that they should be taxed more (such as Warren Buffet, Ben Stein, etc) can now put up or shut up!

    • Sam

      And we want full disclosure.

  • R_J_

    Why would anyone want to be involved with the feudal concept of vassal (employee) in the 21th century? The concept is demeaning to the one preforming the service.

    -

    It is my policy to only deal with people who incorporate.

    End of problem.

    -

    Those anti-Americans who insists the use of demeaning slavery like mechanisms of the past, deserve to be removed from the gene pool. I applaud the wonderful congressmen doing every thing they can to punish and exterminate these troglodytes.

    -

    Why, I even incorporated my ‘mistress’ in tax free Nevada.

    Now payments to her corporation for ‘services’ are a tax deductible business expense.

    -

    It is so simple. Any check written on a business account is a business expense.

    No employees, no paperwork, no state agencies to deal with, only business expences.

    -

    Is this a great country, or what?

    RJ

    • Mark

      No to be condescending, but are you for real or is this a joke?
      Personally, I think your post is an interesting way to play the system. I’m just curious if you’re serious or not.

      • Steve

        It is common practice among contract engineers who travel frequently from one company to the next to incorporate in a no tax state. Then they just claim to do the work in that state. It’s a dodge that gets them out of state tax but not federal. It’s also illegal since they are supposed to pay in the states they work, but I have never heard of one getting caught. If they don’t incorporate then the company they are working with in each state files w2s and they have to pay the tax.

        It must be a nightmare for someone like an NBA player to follow the law. Imagine paying taxes in 20 or more states.

  • alphadave

    I would like to see a change in the tax code that would allow taxpayers to specify how their taxes will be used.  This would undoubtedly end many wasteful government programs.  Unfortunately, this would also take control from our representatives in D.C., which they would never allow.

  • http://twitter.com/THEearthtiger Timothy L Singleton

    I do not have enough profanity to respond to this. There is already an IRS form to submit unrequired taxes. Oddly, the likes of Stephen King, Bill Gates and George Soros never seem to feel the need for it. They can pay at pay.gov, too.

  • Gregd2790

    A person now could send the govt money if they wanted to, or just not take all the deductions they are entitled to—make no mistake, they want to pass this to put the mechanism in place with the employers, and when it doesn’t generate enough revenue they’ll make it mandatory, at a low percent, promising sundowning, only to increase percent and never getting rid of it, as a method to cover whatever spending they want to do.

    • Ren

      Bam! Nailed it!

  • Freeby

    I would like to see the congressmen who supported this bill to set an example by starting to use this program.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=526027856 Sandra Spector

    I was with you until you invoked the philosophy of Ayn Rand.  Seriously – how much of that book have you read?

    • Lonni Clarke

      Maybe you should read more of her works than “that book.”  She has some very timely insights.  I don’t agree with her on everything, but on the nature of governments, tyranny, and human motivations, you can’t fault her much.  She’s been in the belly of the beast. 

      • CharmingChaos

        Maybe YOU can’t fault her much for those insights of hers. But lots of us can. Not a fan of her ideas.

    • Ken

      I’ve read every word of “that book” and loved it.  It’s not stunningly great literature, but the philosophies detailed are life-changing.  Try learning about Objectivism and living a moral life based on nothing but reason, eschewing mysticism.  It’s liberating.

      • ella

        Yet in the end Rand found Socialism and took her Social Security and Medicare

      • JRL

        You have it backwards. Socialism “found” Rand. Social Security and Medicare are mandatory government payments.

    • Valo

      I’m with you this, Sandra. Bringing up Ayn Rand is a sure was to lose my interest.

  • maromiga

    This is hysterical, but not in a fun way.

  • AryanNomad

    That is absolute absurd but in practical terms what idiot would volunteer his salary for this purpose? The nature of government is inane stupidity and vice. If you think Uncle Sam is alone in this than you are wrong. You can live in a place like Dubai and pay virtually nil taxes but you give up other things. I suppose you heard about the New Zealand banker there who got arrested for sexual immorality (ie having a girlfriend (or two))? I think to find a country that has a combination of social/economic freedom and a low tax structure it is exceedingly rare.

    • Ed23

      What idiots? The same idiots that elected the moron in the white house so they could get obama money.

  • maromiga

    All those representatives whose names appear on this bill should be pilloried.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MNTSEJ6OUX727WCS3CO5APP6NM aloeafficiado

    The government already imposes huge burdens on all employers which are multiples of most  profit margins. We don’t need more withholding (which is a mythic misnomer) but let the government assess and collect its own taxes. Ending withholding and also minimum wage would set the economy on fire, especially if the IRS also stopped auditing 73% of all tax returns in the top two brackets. You aint lived until you have met those IRS goons.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V35XRQGHZ5GXGU4RLTJL6B2XLI Kevin

      We need the Fair Tax!

      • Mark

        Amen!!!!

      • Nowistoday

        Fair is 0%.

  • Allen Reames

    It gets worse. I ask my employer, a large corporation, to deduct $1.00. He allocates additional resources to transfer and report and naturally this reduces his net profit and taxes paid. The net return to the debt is negative. Let’s each contribute $1.00 and get the country bankrupt now and get it over with.
    Allen Reames

    • Mark

      Hey Allen,

      The issue with this version of going broke is that it’s the wrong people going down in flames.
      When we talk of the country going bankrupt we are generally referring not to the individuals (including corporations), but to the government. I agree, at some point we just need to let it go down in flames. However, I don’t feel the same for businesses, as they are what is keeping this country from completely melting down financially.

      Cheers,
      -Mark

  • DoneWithYou

    Congress the President AND THEIR STAFFERS should all have 50% of their salaries garnished.

  • Lonni Clarke

    Also from Ayn Rand:  “It only stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.” 

  • Guest

    LOL, mystery solved!  Now I know why aliens don’t want to make contact.  Our planet is probably on their quarantine list, ROFLMAO! There is NO intelligent life here…   

    • wyn

      Good point! I’ll tell my sister to quit sitting up nights waiting for ET.

  • patriotted001

    Our republican form of self-governance requires a virtuous, informed electorate in order to survive.  Since we have neither, we will not.  It’s all over folks, turn out the lights.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Nonya/100001132540562 Mike Nonya

      It’s not even close to over. The ship is still in one piece, the officers are just broken. You don’t sink the ship just because the Captain thinks he can fly…

      • simonjesterus

        Sorry, the ship is full of holes and already half full of water. The rats are looting what’s left. There are precious few in DC that shouldn’t be strung up for treason. DumpDCNow!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V35XRQGHZ5GXGU4RLTJL6B2XLI Kevin

    Simon, thanks for pointing out this scam about to be unleashed upon all us business owners.

    I do have two comments about this to add.

    Currently, anyone that wants to can make a direct payment to the Bureau of Public Debt, and current law does not allow for a deduction for tax purposes. This is not something I recommend to anyone, since it doesn’t really amount to a productive exercise. After all, it doesn’t result in a direct reduction in the debt limit, and (just like nature) Congress abhors a vacuum.

    The part that might be more scary is that with just one word change at some future date, such “payments,” which may be withheld from paychecks, could be made mandatory, with an additional section added that would set minimum payments to be made from each and every paycheck.

  • salamis

    (The) “more patriotic the name, the more ominous the bill.”  - Thank you for clearing.

  • John

    Emerson is quoted as saying  “The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.”   

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Nonya/100001132540562 Mike Nonya

    Good idea, we can send the congresses pay to the Fed for all the spending they did. So nice of them to offer….

    • wyn

      I disagree. Just send them to some cozy socialist state where they’ll feel right at home – like North Korea.

  • Guest

    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. -Mark Twain

  • Chuck B.

    Based on the US jobs numbers today, I doubt there will be many volunteers.
    If only we could all find suckers to pay for our bad debts and bad decisions.

    • Drbobdobbs

      If your name is Blankfien or Dimon, you can!

  • W Hipple

    Don’t let them fool you…they know what they are doing. Every money grab by the Feds is done in small steps. Of course they can get this passed, who cares? Then they will eventually take steps to make it mandatory contribution. We need to boot them all out!

  • sparty569

    @W Hipple…it is already mandatory.  It is called the Federal Income Tax.

    • Mark

      Actually, the federal income tax is not incumbent upon the vast majority of the American population. However, you will still go to jail for not filling or not paying. There is no law requiring individuals who are citizens working in the US to pay a portion of their wage in income tax. If you work abroad you must pay.

      Also, income is not defined as wages, but as capital gaines. If you doubt any of this just look up the tax code. It’s online and easily searchable.

      Cheers,
      -Mark

  • Glorybe

    Just a quick question: In order to “educate the masses”, do you guys copy and paste items like these and send them to the addresses in your e-mail address book, or do you just comment here? Spreading the word via the Internet seems to be the least we can do…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6BMQWGISLCDBGWB25JVTQL7R3Y A

    Interesting, BUT most people (most Americans) living and working in the 50 states actually have no requirement to pay a single dime in ‘income tax’ or even to ‘file a return’ since all of the fraud was perpetrated on the people when Congress passed a limited ‘Victory Tax’ which was to end after two years. The IRS kept sending out ‘returns’ and people who actually did not owe and never owed kept sending in their millions. Which is why nothing collected as ‘income taxes’ pays for anything in gov’. It all goes to the offshore bankers. It’s the largest scam played on the people and most won’t even accept it when shown the truth!  look up Victory Tax, it’s limited application, it’s two year life span that has continued to this day!

    • Veridical Driver

      Will you go to jail for not filing income tax? Then it is the law.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rewinn Randall E. Winn

    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/09/26
    in a sane universe, we would at the very least bring back the Securities Transaction Excise Tax (STET) which worked pretty well to stabilize markets for decades.Set at the rate of something like 25 cents per hundred dollars of any transaction in financial securities, it would have no measurable impact of classical investors, who put money into businesses that they think will succeed in the long run. It discourages rapid security turnover, which has bedevilled our markets, divorcing investment activity from the underlying actual economy. And, best of all, it would force derivatives to make some contribution to the economy they feed off of.If you hate the word “tax” fine with me, call it a “Bail-Out Fund Premium” or something … because without something like that, we’re gonna have to fix the economy again. And again. And Again. Why not tax financial markets up front to pay for fixing them when they explode?And if we could use a little of that tax to pay for infrastructure, such as the court system and civil society that make financial transaction possible, well, that would seem only fair.Of course, the peeps who profit from having a derivatives market bigger by far than the entire real-good market by a factor of 10? 100? 1000? No-one can be entirely sure, since it’s such an unregulated market … but the Tulip Bubble and the South Seas Bubble look primitive compared to it.

    • http://www.salescopywriter.net/ Alan

      Only fair eh comrade? Good grief, can we learn NOTHING!!?

    • Diogenes_

       Taking liquidity out of the US market will guarantee a rapid US dollar and bond collapse. Would you invest in something that costs money to get out of for everyone? Taxing financial transactions is a type of capital control, which this site and others have been warning about for many months.

       Central planning can’t make an economy work, if it could, the USSR would have been histories richest country instead of going bankrupt. Brainwashed government loving Americans can’t be counted on to understand such elementary facts though, which means the ignorant people will demand and receive the destrruction of the economy by such taxes and controls.

    • revolverBoy

      It’s surprising that, even now, people are still talking about silly regulations, more oversight agencies, more bureacracies. Do you understand that the gangsters are in charge? They have the money and the power. More false facades of regulation will only be window dressing to make the peasants believe that something is being done. A banking mafia has taken control of your government. They conrol the money, the politicians, and the military. Do you understand? Will you get it?

  • joewest666

    Almost time to start shooting…

    • wheninthecourse

      no my friend its LONG PAST THAT TIME

    • Ed23

      When people know what they should be doing and still choose to sit on their hands taking about it instead of acting, is that the epitome of stupidity or cowardice or all blow and no go?

      • joewest666

        I think one congress critter got dropped already.. she barely survived. *shrug*

      • tnsmrl@aol.com

        That is quite EXTREME of you to write. That woman DID NOT deserve what happen to her!!!!!!!! I agree that this new bill is not right in any way but that DOES NOT give people the right to just start shooting ARE YOU F***ING nuts!!!!!!!!!!

      • joewest666

        I am sure there were British troops in colonial days that did not deserve a patriots bayonet to the gut..

        Shit happens.

      • tnsmrl@aol.com

        That woman DID NOT deserve what happen to her at all!!!! That was a VERY low blow. I don’t like what’s happening either but you can’t just start shooting people. I think that’s the wrong way to handle this situation.

  • waypasthadenough2

    I’ll give them a percentage of my bailout.

    It’s time to stop arguing over the culture war. It’s time to
    stop hunkering down for the apocalypse. It’s time to start thinking Normandy.

     

    If you
    sit home waiting your turn you deserve to have your gun taken from your cold
    dead hands.

     

    The
    Founders didn’t wait for the Brits to knock down their doors. They gathered at
    the green and stood up like men and they killed government employees all the
    way back to Boston.

     

    What will
    you do when it’s time to hunt NWO hacks, republicrats and commies(“Liberals”
    and ‘progressives’)?

     

    Don’t
    understand? Start here: http://willowtown.com/promo/quotes.htm

    • wyn

      It’s time to stop arguing over the culture war. It’s time to
      stop hunkering down for the apocalypse. It’s time to start thinking Normandy.
      Which Normandy invasion? 1944 AD or 1066AD. 1944 liberated Europe from the Nazi fascists. In 1066 AD, the Normans enslaved Saxon England.

  • Guest

    Is it paranoia when they really are out to get you 

    • Paul

      “Sometimes Paranoia is having all the facts.” William S. Burroughs.

  • Kievmike

    One day closer to revolution..

  • Fed Up With Fed

    Since it was government that caused the debt, I think that they should have to contribute 100% of their salary and 100% of their pension to reduce the debt until it is paid off.

  • Dickyocum

    Is this what we pay these idiots to do. They are stupid beyond belief. It’s time to take this country back.

  • Diogenes_

     In WW2 they started out with campaigns asking people to buy war bonds and pay higher taxes. Than in 1943 they came up with the idea of income tax withholding. This is the same type of thing. They are getting ready for the soon to happen emergency of no buyers for US bonds.

     Instead of a tax, they will call this ‘an emergency invesment.’ Something like that already worked for the social security tax.

     It’s plain as day the US is pulling an Argentina on itself, and will turn it’s own economy into chaotic rubble by government decree.
     

  • Divinguru

    subjectively and with the lack of options for the US government, I think this could have been a good idea if it was presented properly and as long as its TAX deductible…  Which errr. its not…so where’s the logical motivation here…oh wait there isn’t any!  I think the constituents of the US government really do consider its citizens complete retards!  What a slap in the face….and who would be dumb enough to actually contribute?  My shock is beginning to fade when hearing about stuff like this, the acceptance that the US economy is doomed with this form of thinking is setting in…

  • 359copenhagenangel

    R government is so freakin ignorant

  • Tebaok

    One other use for HR2411 is for a disgruntled employee, especially one employed by a small business, to require a $1/month contribution to penalize the company.

  • MC

    Here are some of the things we are paying for – TSA is on the highways now.  Check the link – http://www.infowars.com/tsa-invades-roads-highways-with-vipr-checkpoints/
    The frog is getting hotter every day.

  • Ferny Ceballos

    These are Republicans too.  They should know better.

  • musimann

    Gee… maybe we could get the FED to contribute some of their salary. I wonder how much income tax they pay as a private corporation? We know they bring in about 500 billion a year now in interest on their fiat money scam.

  • The_knopf

    Just another form of slavery!

  • The_knopf

    just another form of SLAVERY

  • Omg

    Oh god bless america

  • Sonphil2

    What is the deal with this  HR2411 is it replacing income tax? Wake up people, they r taxing us already more than we can pay.  Obama was to pay tax on over $5,000,000. a year an he spends like an idiot.
    I think he should pay his percentage. or all of it

  • De

    There is no law making the average individual in this country liable for the income tax.  Fact that even the IRS knows.  I asked them…they refused to show me the law…because there is NO law!  Arrest the thieves now…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1454228288 JoLinda Flemister

    I think I just might find a little island somewhere and stay.

  • http://www.tolfa.us Libertarian Anarchist

    Not only is there no provision making anyone liable for the “income” tax, this idiotic bill is being foisted on us the same way — wage withholding began in 1943 couched as a “patriotic” WW 2 “victory tax” and was openly and admittedly ENTIRELY VOLUNTARY.  Then, little by little, in typical government fashion, they just began making it mandatory without actually changing a thing about the “law.”  One thing is now clear:  Government in all forms is pure poison, and it must go altogether: http://www.tolfa.us

  • Ehswan

    Hell, this is a damn fine idea.  If out of each paycheck we kicked in a dime….

  • Sav.Ktr.Uy

    This is not surprising. It is straight out of communist playbook.

    This will become compulsory, I guarantee it, just like the SSI.

    As I always predicted this, I also predict that next will be the act requiring some of your wages to be paid in treasuries.

    I am not really predicting, just looking at the soviet past, in a sense that a doctor isn’t really predicting which way the decease is going to escalate as he had seen it before.

    And even though, every step we take is a communist step, most still refuse to acknowledge that we will end up in a giant gulag (Glavloe Upravlenie LAGerei). I’ve been there, no more for me, thanks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mattia-Bananna/100000958332209 Mattia Bananna

    I can see it now, in five years. You get stopped at one of the planned TSA checkpoints, and after you show them your papers, they notice you didn’t deduct some of your wages to help pay down the debt.

    “You didn’t show your patriotism by helping the State with its problems, Citizen. Very suspicious…I’m afraid I’m going to have to detain you.”

  • Lililoves555

    If you haven’t left you aren’t getting out. Make a choice. 

  • Dboy

    The bill is not going to pass and it would be a net loser due to the increased paperwork. There’s plenty of real decline signs going on, no need to get into hysterics about this one.

  • LibRep

    Would be hard to pay down the debt when the graph showing both Obama’s spending projections and Paul Ryan’s spending projections over the next decade only show more spending. Time for us to cut off the supply and get DC to go into Spending rehab.

  • John Jauregui

    In the mid-1990′s, as an IT program manager, I interviewed a Russian immigrant who had worked for Boris Yelsin.  He was tall, blonde, blue-eyed, educated as an attorney, MIG fighter pilot, etc. —- part of the Soviet upper crust.  I’ll never forget one of his comments.  He said you know things are going bad when people are trying to get their money converted out of the national fiat currency, getting worse when they are trying to get what wealth they have remaining “physically” out of the country and you know the game is up when they are trying to get themselves and their children out of the country. The fact is debt is the new state-sponsored slavery. Large financial entities like banks, GM and GE get to keep their profits, but their debts are now monetized and layered on the backs of the average citizen, their children and their children’s children. Now this – HR2411! …and we thought “Pay a Tax, Change the Climate” was a bad idea. The simple fact is, we don’t need to cut aerial plant food (CO2) 80% by 2020, we need to cut government organizations and spending 80% by 2020.

  • Ccuthbert2001

    This type of border crossing is already in the good ol’ US of A. The last time I went on a trip, there were 2 TSA goons holding up 2 long lines of passengers going through the security gauntlet, and as I passed the “security” area, I counted 15 TSA goons standing around, shooting the breeze, eating–in general, goofing off. 15!!!!!!!!!

  • Vepari

    Isn’t that’s why we elected Republicans?

  • sodbuster

    All you idiots that voted for O,,,,,how do you like it by now?????

  • harryh

    Can we just impeach Obama?

    • Russ

      That would be a good idea, or build a fund to return him to wherever he was born.
      Sicker by the day what BO is doing to our country.  I believe he is on his agenda of pre-election days.
      Russ

  • Jagraham

    Barack Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he’s doing. He is purposely overwhelming the  U.S.  economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos — thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within. 
    Barack Obama is my college classmate ( Columbia   University , class of ’83). As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at  Columbia   University . They outlined a plan to socialize  America  by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below.
    Taken individually they’re alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival … and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.
     
    – Universal health care. The health care bill had very little to do with health care. It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions). Obama doesn’t care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national debt. What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government. Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a depression?
     
    – Cap and trade. Like health care legislation having nothing to do with health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming. It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama’s biggest contributors. Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants. They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power. The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars, bigger homes and businesses helps Obama “spread the wealth around.”
     
    – Make  Puerto Rico  a state. Why? Who’s asking for a 51st state? Who’s asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression? Certainly not American taxpayers. But this has been Obama’s plan all along. His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressman and a million loyal Democratic voters who are dependent on big government.
     
    – Legalize 12 million illegal immigrants. Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free health care alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt  America . But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat voters who can be counted on to support big government. Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children, food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and eventually Social Security.
     
    – Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go? It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions — including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country. It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues. It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions). A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues). All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting  America . The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful. The ends justify the means.
     
    – Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers, redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama). Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition.
     
    With the acts outlined above, Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.
     
    Add it up and you’ve got the perfect Marxist scheme — all devised by my  Columbia   University  college classmate Barack Obama using the Cloward and Piven Plan.

    • Guest

      Jagraham,

       Great job of explaining what is going on. This is what i would like to say when i try and explain this administration. So i have saved and printed your letter. And will send out to all the people on my list , keep up the good work. ! Gives me a better feeling we have people that know exactly what the progressives are tring to do with our country.

  • Geoff Blair

    Australia seems to have a much better Political system which includes a Free Health and Hospital Medicare system for everyone, strict immigration laws and protection against illegal persons wanting to enter Aust.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RKYLIDDL5IAMSLRHWIJ3FDG764 Aliza

    I guess, the average working class are not poor enough. Let’s help them to get bankrupt even faster. LOL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RKYLIDDL5IAMSLRHWIJ3FDG764 Aliza

    Paying the debt collectively?

    Welcome to the Borg!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RKYLIDDL5IAMSLRHWIJ3FDG764 Aliza

    I wonder if we could sell Obama to the Muslim? We could turn the Iraqi Dinar to pay out at least some of the debt. LOL

  • Jagraham

     
    Subject: Air Force One. Everyone please read this!!`
     This is from Mark Knoller of CBS.  The pilots and crew of Air Force One are flying more hours than a rookie on a beer run.  They are tired of it too, and are adding more crew to Air Force-1, -  I know this for a fact because I’m one of the instructors that trains the crews. Our company (Atlas Air) has had the Air Force-1 and E-4 contract for over two years and I’ve been doing it for about 8 months now.
    Last year (2010) Obama flew in Air Force One 172 times, almost every other day.  White House officials have been telling reporters in recent days that the Democrat doesn’t intend to hang around the White House quite so much in 2011.  They explain he wants to get out more around the country because, as everyone knows, that midterm election shellacking on Nov. 2 had nothing to do with his health care bill, over-spending or other policies, and everything to do with Obama’s not adequately explaining himself to his countrymen and women.
    And with only 673 days remaining in Obama’s never ending presidential campaign, the incumbent’s travel pace will not likely slacken.  At an Air Force-estimated cost of $181,757 per flight HOUR (not to mention the additional travel costs of Marine One, Secret Service, logistics and local police overtime), that’s a lot of frequent flier dollars going into Obama’s carbon footprint.
    We are privy to some of these numbers thanks to CBS’ Mark Knoller, a bearded national treasure trove of presidential stats.  According to Knoller’s copious notes, during the last year, Obama made 65 domestic trips over 104 days, and six trips to eight countries over 22 days.  Not counting six vacation trips over 32 days.
    He took 196 helicopter trips, signed 203 pieces of legislation and squeezed in 29 rounds of left-handed golf.
    Obama last year gave 491 speeches, remarks or statements.  That’s more talking than goes on in some entire families, at least from fatherly mouths.  In fact, even including the 24 days of 2010 that we never saw Obama in public, his speaking works out to about one official utterance every 11 waking hours.  Aides indicate the “Real Good Talker” believes we need more.
    Related:  Obama spends nearly half his presidency outside Washington , plans to travel more
    Related:  Vacationer-in-Chief Spends $1.75 Million to Visit Hawaiian Chums 
    Obama has spent over $100 million taxpayer dollars flying around in Air Force One, and probably another $100 million on his entourage.  Obama is just another tin-pot dictator living lavishly at the expense of his subjects. 
    And we seniors have to “tighten our belts” because we aren’t getting a COLA again this year… and none last year!THANKS TO ALL WHO HELPED PUT THIS GREEDY WINDBAG IN OFFICE!!BE MORE CAREFUL NEXT TIME!!

  • tacra

    What makes this worse is that it’s voluntary for now.  Social Security was voluntary when it was started too.  And better still, what makes you think it will go towards the debt?  I see a lot of social programs in need of cash, comrads

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