Planting flags in Germany

by Simon Black · 11 comments

July 7, 2010
Berlin, Germany

As I’m in Berlin for some quick business, I wanted to take a few minutes to talk about planting flags in Germany; perhaps today is an appropriate day to do so as the Deutschland national football team is taking on Spain in tonight’s World Cup semi-final… and there are German flags flying everywhere.

As a place to visit or plant a residency flag, Germany is a personal call. You might love it– the history is really unique, the people are nice enough, and the nightlife is really interesting (often adult-oriented).  I like it fine, but there are more exciting places in Europe for my taste.

As a place to establish tax residency, Germany should definitely not be considered. Individual income tax rates can be as high as 67%, and the government taxes its official residents, both foreign and citizen, on their worldwide income.

As a place to establish a citizenship flag, Germany is a valuable passport. Germans have visa free travel to more countries than the US and Canada, and they’re not ill favored in the world.

Unfortunately, it’s not one of the countries whose nationality laws provide ancestral citizenship… so if your grandparents were German, it won’t make much of a difference to you.

Germany does provide for naturalization after 8 long years of permanent residency… but Belgium is a much easier option at only 3-4 years, and it’s an equally valuable passport.

I do know of people who have gained German citizenship by going through the process of being married or adopted, but this is not a good forum to discuss that.

As a place to plant an emergency flag, where you would go in the event of a global meltdown, I would give Germany mediocre marks (no pun intended). The country has enough food, water, and arable land to sustain itself, but I worry about its energy security.

For now, Germany has too much reliance on foreign nations to import critical oil and gas supplies.  The government has been pushing for renewable sources, and while these have been growing, Germans would probably freeze to death if they were shut out by Russia.

In my assessment, Germany does score rather well when it comes to investing and business opportunities.

The German economy is one of the largest and most powerful in the world; I think it serves as a reasonable model of how a modern, developed, industrialized nation can simultaneously be among the wealthiest in the world but still have a solid manufacturing and export base.

Yes, there are problems, starting with their bloated welfare programs and high tax rates. The government appears to be taking positive steps with unpopular austerity measures, but I really doubt these will stick in the long run.

Regardless, though, the overall German savings rate is quite high at 12.8% of their disposable income.  Germans have money, and they save quite a bit of it. For entrepreneurs, this makes the country a solid consumer market, as well as a great place to source investment capital.

For workers and professionals, there are reasonable employment opportunities in the country for would-be expats; the German labor market has been steadily strengthening, and multinationals are hiring once again.

In terms of an investment flag, there are some opportunities in Germany.  Thanks to decades of gross economic mismanagement by the Spanish, Greek, and Italian governments, quality German assets are selling at a discount for non-euro investors.

The entire eurozone has suffered, and will continue to suffer, because of the most rotten apples in the bunch… so in a way, investing in Germany gets you Deutschmark assets at a Greek drachma discount.

I’m rather averse to most European equity markets right now (with the exception of Cyprus and a few others).  I do think, however, that German real estate may be a reasonable speculation.

The country never experienced a massive real estate boom, so prices never got out of control. At $3,500 per square meter of residential space, an apartment in Berlin is not much more expensive than top-end property in Panama! And it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than what I’ve seen recently in Spain and Italy.

The rental yield is not spectacular at 5%, but I think that property prices could rise significantly on a currency-adjusted basis. When (not if) the eurozone finally breaks apart, the new German (or modified eurozone) currency will be much stronger, resulting in fantastic profits

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  • Lucychronicles

    What happened to being in Vegas for Freedomfest? Perhaps next year. I was really looking forward to finally putting a face (and a cocktail perhaps ;-) w/ the name.

  • Möpsi

    I question Germany's food security, and so do the experts who are wringing their hands in Holland.

    My mom & dad were over for the 4th of july, and just got done telling me about the Vierlander (four lands) area of Germany, which was once regarded as the bread basket of Europe, having some of the best topsoil in the world. Well for some reason the whole area got paved over, which is when Germany & UK became a net food importer from Holland.

    The farmland in Holland is several feet below sea level, and nuke reactors run the pumps night and day. The problem is that those nuke reactors will shut down in a breach scenario, which is highly publicized problem.

    My dad's point was that the world, for whatever reason, has decided to organize its systems into having single points of failure. We can probably thank the just-in-time inventory and efficiency experts for the whole mess.

    If a storm approached Holland, as it did New Orleans, it would apparently send a significant chunk of Europe straight into food shortages. The system has almost no capacity to absorb such a hit, because like everywhere else in the world, the distribution systems are right at capacity, on the knife's edge, so one should probably extrapolate famine and significant migrations. It would not be the first time.

    I enjoy the non-GMO food while I am there, and the white spargel, unsurpassed potatoes, and fruit imported from the Med. But I would not go there for food security.

  • Dave

    A London meetup, eh? Are you going to plan an EU-wide meetup somewhere sometime? I'm in Italy, but Paris or Zurich would be sweet.

  • TieCollector

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    Look forward to hearing from some local Simon’s blog subscribers. Thanks.

    TieCollector

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  • Datas_brother

    Hi Simon,

    One other thing that makes getting German citizenship a problem is keeping other passports. Once you reach 18 Germany will not recognize dual citizenship. They require you to give up any other nationalities you may have. This is what has prevented me from acquiring a German passport even though I fulfill all the requirements.

    Cheers
    DB

  • Todd-in-Spain

    Excellent information as always. Since you write a number of your letters from Spain, any chance you do an extensive write up about planting flags in Spain like you just did for Germany? I am also interested in your opinion of the long term outlook for Spain and if it will be pulling out of the EU. Thanks as always.

  • Roq

    Hi Simon, this is a great overview of Germany. I've got ethnic -German grandparents but my parents (and myself were born in Australia, and as you rightly pointed out, Germany holds no ancestry citizenship laws. I've recently been doing some research into my familiy history and it turns out my grandparents were actually born in Yugoslavia (now Serbia), you may have head of the Danube Swabian settlers. After WW2 they and almost 1 milion other ethnic-Germans were displaced during Soviet rule. In doing my research I've discovered that Serbia still recognises those who were displaced as citizens to this day, and they also have ancestry citizenship processes in place. I've contacted the Serbian consulate in Australia but they are providing limmited information other than the need to provide originals of my grand parents' certificate of citizenship, whcih we do not have. I was wondering if you would have any other info about this? Given that so many decendants of Yugoslav-Germans are still out there it would probably benefit a number of people on your list.

  • Bantheinternet

    Just to echo the point about Germany being a solid consumer market. Germany is all about manufacturing & export. It's service and consumer sectors are rather undeveloped for a country with such high GDP. You can see from the high savings rate where the focus of most Germans is. Half the Germans I know would calculate the amortization before so much as buying a toaster! That being said, people do have disposable income, and I do see an enormous opportunity for entrepreneurs – particularly those used to highly competitive markets such as the UK. Just watch out for the bureaucracy!

    On the property note, $3,500 sq/m is for premium property in Berlin, and 5% is probably about right depending on the area. As it happens lower end ($2-2.5k property in the east is actually more interesting for long term investment and can achieve 6-9%. Two important (if obvious) points – do your homework on what/where you are buying and get a good property manager.

    On that note, beware, there are a lot of rubbish property managers around. Worse than that, there are a lot of shady characters buzzing around the property world as you go further into the east.

    Many foreign investors have been caught out buying turkey portfolios without so much and a site visit and/or getting locked into crappy asset managers over the last few years.

    All that aside, in the 2/3 years I have been in Berlin, I have seen big changes – particularly the city just filling up with people (and a lot of expats). I believe property prices will climb to catch up with some of the other European capitals as the city gentrifies over the next decade.

    Oh, one last thing – there are excellent (50%) subsidies (+other incentives) for setting up businesses in the former east (brandenburg, saxony etc). Many indications point to them dropping in January 2011 so get in quick should you wish to set up long term business in Germany.

  • Mhardegree

    Simon, if a global meltdown were to occur, and you were on the “last plane out” of the U.S., what country(ies) would you personally be trying to get to?

  • Nyawr Ming

    This nation is very powerful.

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