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		<title>By: Atlanta Gold and Coin Buyers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atlanta Gold and Coin Buyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think so Chinese need to promote the business about the Gold and silver investment, they are very nice in every field and they have gain some great business aspects in comparison to other country. Thanks anyways for the information. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think so Chinese need to promote the business about the Gold and silver investment, they are very nice in every field and they have gain some great business aspects in comparison to other country. Thanks anyways for the information.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzy Lounge Bar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzy Lounge Bar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 23:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very interesting. Great post. Hope to see more of you&#039;re post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very interesting. Great post. Hope to see more of you&#39;re post.</p>
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		<title>By: Carte Gold</title>
		<link>http://www.sovereignman.com/finance/gold-mania-in-china/comment-page-1/#comment-7330</link>
		<dc:creator>Carte Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 09:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent! Great article, I already saved it to my favourite,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! Great article, I already saved it to my favourite,</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Smits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard Smits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello JL
Thank you very much for your above ramblings it is what people like me who like to know what goes on in other parts of the world
have great difficulty in finding out.You are particularely interesting in that you work and seem to move in areas that are not connected with the tousist industry.I have been in China 3x but have had some difficulty in finding some of the simple things you told us. The &#039;Chinese pride&#039; is a formidable obsticle . They will insist that the bus leaves at 10.00am. when one bl...well knows that
it will not leave untill it is full.
What about creating a web site and tell us how things are going as per above say once a month??
Thank you again for taking the trouble,
Bernie Smits</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello JL<br />
Thank you very much for your above ramblings it is what people like me who like to know what goes on in other parts of the world<br />
have great difficulty in finding out.You are particularely interesting in that you work and seem to move in areas that are not connected with the tousist industry.I have been in China 3x but have had some difficulty in finding some of the simple things you told us. The &#8216;Chinese pride&#8217; is a formidable obsticle . They will insist that the bus leaves at 10.00am. when one bl&#8230;well knows that<br />
it will not leave untill it is full.<br />
What about creating a web site and tell us how things are going as per above say once a month??<br />
Thank you again for taking the trouble,<br />
Bernie Smits</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>judy, 

He means spot + $30</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>judy, </p>
<p>He means spot + $30</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumb question, you say that the premium runs roughly $30 per ounce, what do you mean by &quot;premium&quot;? Is that the same thing as the spot price?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumb question, you say that the premium runs roughly $30 per ounce, what do you mean by &#8220;premium&#8221;? Is that the same thing as the spot price?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for this information Mr. Black. 

It seems like the nature of the game going on in the US/European market has been one of covering vast losses with paper while the, it would appear, entirety of their financial institutions plot/plan out the motion of a historically enormous M and A. It seems the little bankster fish are dying on the vine (see: 94 FDIC endings as the yesterday) with many more on the hit list. Good riddance.

With all this politically supported covering going on, and the ensuing media propaganda, I have been watching the indicators with relish and have come to believe that the best of these indicators are coming out of the BRIC. Russia and China appear to be gearing up for a tidal change from west to east. For these leaders of the SCO to &quot;recommend&quot; a change to a more diversified reserve currency and now your &quot;street-level&quot; information concerning China&#039;s private populace lining up to acquire the available metals market it gives another piece to this puzzle. 

Chinese policy makers appear to have given up on the fidelity of US paper contracts (at least overtly) and are encouraging a grass roots effort to pull as much metal and resources into their nation as will compensate them from a vast collapse of empty western promises. 

It&#039;s invaluable to get insight into how enthusiastically the Chinese people are following these savings suggestions. Has anyone found an English language site that might be monitoring the totals and/or deltas of these private Chinese purchases over the last, say, 10 months?

Again thank you very much! (Also thanks JL for the further insight- I was aware of the building of empty/nearly empty high rises in many major Chinese cities and just chalked it up to another excuse to bring resources, of any kind, into the national fold while keeping a political lid on the potential collapse of contemporary market structure- a la US propaganda. &quot;May you live in interesting times&quot; is becoming a strong object lesson it seems.)

Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for this information Mr. Black. </p>
<p>It seems like the nature of the game going on in the US/European market has been one of covering vast losses with paper while the, it would appear, entirety of their financial institutions plot/plan out the motion of a historically enormous M and A. It seems the little bankster fish are dying on the vine (see: 94 FDIC endings as the yesterday) with many more on the hit list. Good riddance.</p>
<p>With all this politically supported covering going on, and the ensuing media propaganda, I have been watching the indicators with relish and have come to believe that the best of these indicators are coming out of the BRIC. Russia and China appear to be gearing up for a tidal change from west to east. For these leaders of the SCO to &#8220;recommend&#8221; a change to a more diversified reserve currency and now your &#8220;street-level&#8221; information concerning China&#8217;s private populace lining up to acquire the available metals market it gives another piece to this puzzle. </p>
<p>Chinese policy makers appear to have given up on the fidelity of US paper contracts (at least overtly) and are encouraging a grass roots effort to pull as much metal and resources into their nation as will compensate them from a vast collapse of empty western promises. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s invaluable to get insight into how enthusiastically the Chinese people are following these savings suggestions. Has anyone found an English language site that might be monitoring the totals and/or deltas of these private Chinese purchases over the last, say, 10 months?</p>
<p>Again thank you very much! (Also thanks JL for the further insight- I was aware of the building of empty/nearly empty high rises in many major Chinese cities and just chalked it up to another excuse to bring resources, of any kind, into the national fold while keeping a political lid on the potential collapse of contemporary market structure- a la US propaganda. &#8220;May you live in interesting times&#8221; is becoming a strong object lesson it seems.)</p>
<p>Scott</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is jason from the united states. i would like to get in touch with JL. so JL if you see this i would like to talk to you. thanks, jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is jason from the united states. i would like to get in touch with JL. so JL if you see this i would like to talk to you. thanks, jason</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article - thanks! (thanks also to JL for his excellent information!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article &#8211; thanks! (thanks also to JL for his excellent information!)</p>
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		<title>By: Hal (GT)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal (GT)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for covering this issue with China. I did see it about two or three weeks ago. I consider it very big news that forecasts China&#039;s future position on gold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for covering this issue with China. I did see it about two or three weeks ago. I consider it very big news that forecasts China&#8217;s future position on gold.</p>
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		<title>By: TheTradingReport &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why China Wants Its Citizens to Buy Gold</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheTradingReport &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why China Wants Its Citizens to Buy Gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Steer, in his September 17 column, pointed out Simon Black&#8217;s report that China was urging citizens to buy gold as an indicator that gold demand was building. Well, this certainly will build demand for gold but [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Steer, in his September 17 column, pointed out Simon Black&#8217;s report that China was urging citizens to buy gold as an indicator that gold demand was building. Well, this certainly will build demand for gold but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon,
You are spot on with your China Gold phenomena. I live in Suzhou (tier 2 city 50 miles West or 35 min minutes by bullet train). You can buy gold at banks and Gold shops that sell jewelery / gold bars etc... I haven&#039;t seen the ads on tv but I don&#039;t watch Chinese tv but interestingly before you ran your report I spoke to my girlfriend about buying gold and she listed the banks (which are everywhere) and I&#039;ve been in the gold shops that you&#039;ve described and they they have people lining up. But I will say that most people that I&#039;ve spoken to her from business to regular folks understand the imprtance of gold of combatting inflation and maintaining wealth. 

My actual question is which bank does Christine recommend to get a safety deposit box and open a bank account for a rainy day. I&#039;ve talked to locals and they don&#039;t trust banks because it is easy to steal bank card info so I have been advised to only keep enough to pay for online purchases. To be honest I haven&#039;t bothered because I can buy cheap enough flights with www.ctrip.com and www.elong.com (an expedia venture). I would be interested in leaving my safety net in China, Hong Kong etc... as long as it somewhat safe. Do you really trust the Chinese enough to leave a safety net here. Or do you trust the US not to piss them off and push them to do something drastic. Actually, I am Canadian working for a US company and am applying for a greencard (a process started years ago).

I&#039;ve been following your work since WoB and really look forward to reading your daily letter.

Best regards,
JL

P.S. I work in manufacturing and I can say that in most industries automotive, aerospace, machining, etc... came to a halt a few months ago. Now things are picking up, some companies can&#039;t keep up. It is getting common for us in manufacturing to find semi-skilled labor right now. I, and my expat friends, are have extreme difficulties finding decent engineers. Then it is even more tough to keep people, but that is another story.

P.P.S. even in the worst of this recession there was a big slump in spending at mall, restaurants, hair salons, massage etc... but it was difficult for us foreigners to see it because there are so many places that looked jam packed with people becuase of shear number of them. All the Chinese would say, &quot;what recession, it&#039;s not affecting us&quot; because of Chinese pride. However, when talking to small business owners (myself, friends, and my Chinese girlfriend) we could hear the stories of business going down. But this was nothing compared to SARS!!! So most entrepreuners are still happy. Manufacturing got weak, perhaps some closed shop but many international companies weathered the storm and took furlough days- maybe a week or two. I work for conglomerate and the subsiduary companies in the US and UK were closed for at least 1 month and laid-off 20-30% of the work force. Very freghtening because I worked some of these plants before.

P.P.P.S. I lived in California, 50miles of LA from 2005-2008 years before moving out here and everybody told me to buy real-estate. I didn&#039;t and I turned better not buying. People in Suzhou are talking the same way that the CAers did, &quot;it&#039;s safe&quot;, &quot;it won&#039;t go down&quot;, etc...this after a tremendous run-up. The amount of cosntruciotn is absolutely mind boggling. The buildings are half-full and they are building more. It is not like the US where they build 2-3 towers but rather 10-20 at a time.

Anyways, I&#039;ve rambled enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon,<br />
You are spot on with your China Gold phenomena. I live in Suzhou (tier 2 city 50 miles West or 35 min minutes by bullet train). You can buy gold at banks and Gold shops that sell jewelery / gold bars etc&#8230; I haven&#8217;t seen the ads on tv but I don&#8217;t watch Chinese tv but interestingly before you ran your report I spoke to my girlfriend about buying gold and she listed the banks (which are everywhere) and I&#8217;ve been in the gold shops that you&#8217;ve described and they they have people lining up. But I will say that most people that I&#8217;ve spoken to her from business to regular folks understand the imprtance of gold of combatting inflation and maintaining wealth. </p>
<p>My actual question is which bank does Christine recommend to get a safety deposit box and open a bank account for a rainy day. I&#8217;ve talked to locals and they don&#8217;t trust banks because it is easy to steal bank card info so I have been advised to only keep enough to pay for online purchases. To be honest I haven&#8217;t bothered because I can buy cheap enough flights with <a href="http://www.ctrip.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ctrip.com</a> and <a href="http://www.elong.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.elong.com</a> (an expedia venture). I would be interested in leaving my safety net in China, Hong Kong etc&#8230; as long as it somewhat safe. Do you really trust the Chinese enough to leave a safety net here. Or do you trust the US not to piss them off and push them to do something drastic. Actually, I am Canadian working for a US company and am applying for a greencard (a process started years ago).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been following your work since WoB and really look forward to reading your daily letter.</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
JL</p>
<p>P.S. I work in manufacturing and I can say that in most industries automotive, aerospace, machining, etc&#8230; came to a halt a few months ago. Now things are picking up, some companies can&#8217;t keep up. It is getting common for us in manufacturing to find semi-skilled labor right now. I, and my expat friends, are have extreme difficulties finding decent engineers. Then it is even more tough to keep people, but that is another story.</p>
<p>P.P.S. even in the worst of this recession there was a big slump in spending at mall, restaurants, hair salons, massage etc&#8230; but it was difficult for us foreigners to see it because there are so many places that looked jam packed with people becuase of shear number of them. All the Chinese would say, &#8220;what recession, it&#8217;s not affecting us&#8221; because of Chinese pride. However, when talking to small business owners (myself, friends, and my Chinese girlfriend) we could hear the stories of business going down. But this was nothing compared to SARS!!! So most entrepreuners are still happy. Manufacturing got weak, perhaps some closed shop but many international companies weathered the storm and took furlough days- maybe a week or two. I work for conglomerate and the subsiduary companies in the US and UK were closed for at least 1 month and laid-off 20-30% of the work force. Very freghtening because I worked some of these plants before.</p>
<p>P.P.P.S. I lived in California, 50miles of LA from 2005-2008 years before moving out here and everybody told me to buy real-estate. I didn&#8217;t and I turned better not buying. People in Suzhou are talking the same way that the CAers did, &#8220;it&#8217;s safe&#8221;, &#8220;it won&#8217;t go down&#8221;, etc&#8230;this after a tremendous run-up. The amount of cosntruciotn is absolutely mind boggling. The buildings are half-full and they are building more. It is not like the US where they build 2-3 towers but rather 10-20 at a time.</p>
<p>Anyways, I&#8217;ve rambled enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does not surprise me. With the debt levels in the US fastly approaching 100% of GDP can you really blame China for not wanting US treasuries and moving their money elsewhere? 

Were getting exaclty what we wanted as a country, debt, debt, and more debt to make it easier for everyone who perfers wants the government to control their lives while those of us who bust our butts pay for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does not surprise me. With the debt levels in the US fastly approaching 100% of GDP can you really blame China for not wanting US treasuries and moving their money elsewhere? </p>
<p>Were getting exaclty what we wanted as a country, debt, debt, and more debt to make it easier for everyone who perfers wants the government to control their lives while those of us who bust our butts pay for it.</p>
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		<title>By: tool</title>
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		<dc:creator>tool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is the chinese government marketing gold?  What benefit would it have to them vs a renminbi bank account?</description>
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