US government proposes law making it illegal for them to kill you

by Simon Black on August 7, 2012

HR-6357

August 7, 2012
Oxford, England

Last Friday, US Congressman Dennis Kucinich introduced HR 6357, a bill which aims to ‘prohibit the extrajudicial killing of United States citizens’ by the federal government. In other words, in the Land of the Free, they need to pass a law to prevent the government from indiscriminately murdering its own citizens.

Now if this doesn’t give one reason to pause and consider the distortions of liberty that have taken place in western civilization, I don’t know what will. Think about it:

Does a free society send government hit men to eliminate anyone they perceive to be an enemy of the state?

Does a free society have hundreds of police agencies, each with the authority to deprive a man of his life, liberty and property in their sole discretion?

Does a free society have hundreds of thousands of laws, codes, rules, regulations, and policies which effectively criminalize nearly every aspect of one’s existence?

Does a free society lead the world in prison population?

Does a free society hunt down criminals and terrorists by treating its citizens like criminals and terrorists?

Does a free society tell its citizens what foods they are / are not allowed to consume?

Does a free society steal your money at gunpoint to buy bombs that they drop by remote control on brown people in faraway lands?

Does a free society debase its currency and plunder the purchasing power of its citizens?

Does a free society saddle unborn generations with obligations they never signed up to bear?

Does a free society award near total control of the economy, the money supply, and everything tied to it, to a tiny elite few?

Does a free society brainwash its citizens into believing that they live in a free society? (at least the Chinese know they’re not free…)

Ask yourself, are you really living in a free society? Are you free? If not, why not? What else could possibly be more important?

It takes courage to answer honestly. But once you realize the truth and begin to see the system for what it is, it can be a liberating and life-changing experience.

You’ll find that there are places where you can live free in this world. There are ways to preserve your dignity, your privacy, your livelihood. You’ll find that you can build great camaraderie and mutual trust with like-minded souls because you share the same values, not the same color passport.

My guess is that you’re reading this because you’ve already started down the road to freedom. But you might feel alone… intellectually isolated in a sea of automatons.

You’re not alone. More and more people are waking up every day and beginning to realize the incredible fraud that has been perpetrated against them. When enough of them figure it out, this system will be finished.

That’s why I fundamentally believe that today is one of the most exciting times to be alive since the French Revolution. And we’re just getting warmed up.

If you have any friends or loved ones who still exemplify that self-deluded, bombastic serf mentality, I encourage you to pass this along to them… and challenge them to answer honestly.

More to follow.

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  • http://profiles.google.com/markus4caz Mark James

    Simon, on a related subject, I have recently come across an organisation called “The Republic for the United States of America”. They have a president and full executive structure (allegedly), and their claim is that the present US Government is in fact a corporation, and that the Republic for the US of A is the legitimate government.

    My sense is that this is a bunch of whackos with no legitimacy whatsoever, but on the other hand, uprisings against tyrannical governments have to start somewhere, so why not this mob?

    Any ideas?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Smith/100002359397419 Paul Smith

       Isn’t it true that ‘We The People’ determine who has legitimacy, Mark?  Isn’t it true that the bunch in Washington are corrupt and evil?  If ‘We The People’ cast our fortunes and our lives behind the Republic for the US of A, doesn’t that make them legitimate?

  • Arctic Patriot

    “You’ll find that there are places where you can live free in this world.”

    I object to the implication behind this statement.  One can live free no matter where one is physically, if one is willing to stand firm.  The thought that one must cut and run out of the country and then proceed to imply to all of us Americans that we must do likewise to be truly free is defeatist and will result in a self-fulfilling prophecy scenario.

    Of course if everyone who desires freedom cuts and runs, tyranny will reign.  Only when men stand and refuse to bend can freedom reign.

    Leaving the country is not a way to “live free”.  It is merely a way to submit to the laws of a different government that appeal more to one’s sensibilities.  It is ultimately a comfort issue.  One DOES NOT gain freedom by moving away.  One gains freedom by claiming it and standing upon it.

    I have no desire to cut and run.  This is my land, my country, my nation.  Time is short, and we need everyone here for this fight. 

    Please quit running and telling everyone else to run.

    Come home and help your countrymen stand.  I value my nation and my countrymen much more than I value my comfort and whatever superficial benefits might come from living elsewhere, under the yoke of a slightly less oppressive government.

    My fathers died to make this country free from the yoke of the one from which you wrote this article.

    I refuse to spit on their graves by dishonoring what was bought with their very lifeblood.

    • J Blair

       how are you and 10 other guys going to take on the us military and FEMA?

      • Ilivefreeordie

        How did less than 10% of the Colonists beat the most fearsome military in the world?

      • JimBass56

        Bingo.

    • Charles

      Talk is cheap and we all know it’s too late. Times change and just go along with it. You will never beat a powerful well equipped army with your deer rifle. Sorry to wake you up.

      • JimBass56

        Yep, that powerful well-equipped Army in Afgahnistan sure has had a wasy-ass time of it for the last 10 YEARS+ against those grubby herdsmen with old rifles. Going along with it is for spineless pussies – like ‘good Germans’ in ’38.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rand-Allan/1556451159 Rand Allan

       Be careful on applying your own interpretation to a comment before carefully analyzing the context. It can certainly mean other countries and it is certainly true. However, in The Sovereign Man and many other web sites, the term “in this world” is also used to mean “in this society where we live”. There are plenty of things you can do to not participate in the amoral rules of this govt. It takes planning and it takes a willingness to stand up and pay the price when threatened. A benign example is pulling up to a signal late at night when the light is red. The good little slave will sit there and wait all night if the light doesn’t change. The free man who thinks for himself will look to see if there is any traffic (or cops waiting to entrap you) then cross against the signal.

    • dubld

       Call me unmoved. 

      A nation is nothing but a collectivist concept. 40% of my countrymen live off of money stolen and redistributed from me.  My only bond with them is one of parasite and host, not proud countrymen.  And beyond the Revolutionary War what freedom was bought with anyone’s lifeblood?   The Civil War was an act of treason, WWI and WWII vets fought socialism then came home and welcomed it into their homes (that’s for you too JimBass).  This tells me that they didn’t even know who their enemy was, but rather just shot at whoever they were told to shoot at out of a blind devotion to the same idiotic patriotism that oozes from your post.  I’m sorry if you choose to live in denial of the fact that your ‘fathers’ were such dupes.

      Nobody is running from some arbitrary concept of tyranny.  They are running from AMERICANS!   “Tyranny” doesn’t start and support our illegal wars, AMERICANS do.  “Tyranny” doesn’t steal from our paychecks, AMERICANS do.  And AMERICANS shamelessly accept that stolen money.  “Tyranny” hasn’t devolved our political system into a phony one agenda dog and pony show, AMERICANS have.  And at every step they have justified it with the same brainless appeal to patriotism that you do.  And should I choose to “stand firm” against AMERICANS perpetuating these acts of force and aggression against me, AMERICANS will put me in prison. 

      Stop being such an idiot.  Sorry to put it so bluntly, but YOU are everything that those of us leaving are hoping to leave furthest behind.  The self righteous, brainwashed idiot American, whose entire worldview is the lyric to country music song. 

      You have lost.  Your father has lost.  His father lost.  We have all lost.  Escaping with our lives is all we have left.  PLEASE do stay.  The distance between us is our precise intent and purpose.   JBlair gets it…

    • TV

      We belong to a group that is doing something positive…

    • http://www.facebook.com/taylore.vance Taylore Vance

      I agree! We must help wake up our friends and neighbors. We can stand together. If we run — we will be running forever…

  • J Blair

    the people VS the evil government drama has no real meaning. I used to be a 911 truther, patriot, etc. But I realized that in this world, nearly everyone is in on the kill. How many people have been killed by corporations poisoning our food supply? How many lives have been lived in misery and cut short due to the fact that we buy products from Walmart made by slaves, or Apple computers where the suicide rate in the manufacturing plant is epidemic? How many millions of women and children has our military killed while americans proudly display “Support our Troops” bumper stickers? How many lives have been lived in sickness and squalor because employers pay a pittance minimum wage? Who is going to help a sick person who lost their work and their home?

    This world is a place of prey and predator. Human life means nothing really. People are expendable and the common moral code supports using them as resources to be exploited and allowing them to die when they fail to win at the money game.  All illusions of morals and decency are pretense.

    But what we have going on in the patriot movement is simply a reaction to discovering that your on the prey end of the equation rather than the predator end. So we make noble sounding noises about the “founding fathers”, etc. and its really nothing more than American Exceptionalism at play.

    This is a world of pimps and hoes. nothing more. The elite are not doing anything to us that we, in the vast majority, have not done to others.

  • Charles

    It’s too late for Americans, why even bother fighting? You can’t beat the government with your pea shooter against F-16, F-18, F-22, Apache, Abram tanks. Just accept it.

    • 1XXX

      Interesting how effective those goat-herders in Afghanistan are with their pea-shooters.

      Nobody is unbeatable or invulnerable.

  • Gil

    Gee, even the Founding Fathers believe the government had the right to execute traitors.  Yes, a homegrown terrorist ought to have no special rights over a foreign-born terrorist.  You make or advocate war against the U.S. you become an enemy combatant and lose your right to life without a trial.  Simple.

    • jim55

      Gil, you make it sound so simple. One little thing you forgot to mention, is that an individual should have the right of habeas corpus before being labled a traitor or terrorist.

      • jim55

        Oh, you did mention “without a trial”, sorry, even worse.  An individual should have the right of habeas corpus before being labled a traitor or terrorist. That is a natural right in a free society. I believe that was the authors point.It seems you are more comfortable under tyranny, so maybe you shouldn’t reference the founding fathers when you comment on this subject.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rand-Allan/1556451159 Rand Allan

       Gil, the important difference is that the Founding Fathers had the decency to give their traitors a trial to establish their guilt. The Obama regime didn’t even give him that benefit. He served as jury, judge, and executioner. If you want freedom, you have to be willing to extend those rights to everyone, even the ones you believe don’t deserve it or that live in a foreign country. Otherwise,ones professed believe in liberty is a sham, and you’re willing to suspend freedom for all in your quest for safety. I would rather be free in a dangerous world than be a slave to the govt in a safe world.

    • crosby.joshua

      If you have a natural right to life, how can opposition to men depriving you of it, constitue forfeiture of it?  Your objection reveals that you believe 537 people in one city has a primary right over your existence.  Whether you would state it that way or not makes no difference.

    • Jimbobla

       Gee Gil; Barry sitting up in the Oval Office deciding who is and who isn’t a terrorist and therefor deserves to die does not comfort me that justice is being served. Rights are rights without qualification. The right to life being the first and foremost. Barry The First has not been deified yet, and you are an idiot. I can accuse you of this without you having to worry about a drone firing a missile up your incredibly large keister. If Barry thinks this of you, start worrying.

    • dalex

      You’d make a great tyrant…  As far as I’m concerned EVERYBODY has a right to trial; it’s a human right, not a political one. You’d put a single politician (or group of military men) in charge of deciding who lives and dies? Crazy! You’re not the kind of American that our forefathers envisioned.

    • dubld

      Where’s the part where you PROVE he’s a terrorist?

      How about I just call you a terrorist?  Just that easy huh?

      “If you see something say something” right? All this talk you’re doing about executing people is making me a little uneasy…

    • JustThinkingLogically

       Gee Gil, maybe you should consider that the definition of “traitor” is fungible.  That is, it’s defined as anything the government says it is.  Don’t follow all the tens of thousands of laws?  You’re an enemy of the state.  Forget disagreeing with what they’re doing to us, you can’t live a day in this country without breaking at least a few laws/regulations, etc.

    • Uncle Sam

       Even traitors have historically received trials.

  • dubld

    Thank you for clarifying this historical fact. 

    It isn’t talked about much in country music lyrics and thus is unknown to others here.

  • Capn_Mike

    I just think that DK is a decent human being. That’s why he’s been purged by the Dem. Party. He’s been re-districted into non-existence. That alone tells you he’s a good guy. Deluded socialist, perhaps, but a decent guy.

  • Capn_Mike

    Yep, but there had to be someone to bring the French in…

  • JustThinkingLogically

     Kind of like how the number of unmanned drones launched against Pakistani targets has grown substantially during the Obama administration.  Like it or not, there were a lot of people there that could be found guilty by association, not that they did anything illegal themselves except were at the wrong place at the wrong time.

    Maybe some of those killed were just trying to get a job to feed their families.  Under our current understanding, this is punishable by death?

    The government is not your friend.

  • http://twitter.com/joaocesarmontei joao cesar

    But a fascist such as you sure as ass doesn’t think it a fraud that you can shoot someone as long as they’re on your property and claim it’s self-defense.

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